And they (the church) were talking about one membership with… one church with about 25% membership are infected. The other church was about 70%. And the other churches they don't know, but they know that some people in there are infected. So they said how long are we going to keep quiet?
To begin with people were, some people didn't want to be involved, they didn't want, didn't want to be part of it. But after discussions and after the workshops, we then had a workshop, we were divided into groups, then we had a workshop running within the church for that afternoon… (that) were debating and discussing issues, how would you treat a member of the church if they're HIV? What would you do?
Some people would say, 'I think they are promiscuous, I think they are cursed, I think they are evil', yeah. They said all sorts of ugly things. And then they (the facilitators) said, 'If you take yourself in the position, if it is you who was HIV positive, how would you want people to treat you?'
Some people really found that, they really looked at themselves as people with, in this situation. And they got to appreciate what the people… how the people are living with HIV felt what they are going through. And they started turning back, and they were saying, 'It's quite unfortunate we didn't quite know what these people were going through.'
So I think we have to stretch out a hand just like Jesus did. We have to love and to show love, to give them all the support that we can, and we want this programme to go on… At the end, end of, at the end of the day that was what was agreed on.
And they said there were going to be programmes running from time to time on HIV, Aids within the church from that day. So they… and so there were psalms composed for the day and everything and the day went off perfectly well, yeah.