It's like a hole, it's sort of like slipping into a muddy hole and you're trying not to slide... trying to get up the sides and you keep sliding down again and you need help. I think that's what I would say. The periods of counselling I've had, self-help psychology, rebirthing. Things I've done have all helped, even going for physical therapies, like acupuncture, shiatsu, have helped, because you can talk to somebody sensible and they do give your physical system a boost, you know. I mean depression makes you feel different physically. It upsets your physiology in some way and doing those sort of things, going to the gym, doing exercise and things, getting out, doing something can help reverse that, and doing nothing never helps I've found. I mean I've tried just sort of giving in to it, just laying about and, "Oh, OK, eventually it will go", but you don't get anywhere with it.
It sounds like you been active in dealing with your depression?
I was thinking that before you came, you know, but I have been a positive person. I haven't just sat back and I haven't accepted drug treatment because I don't think they solve the problem. It may be that some people have chemical imbalance or something like that and that's a different matter. If the cause is physiological then maybe you need some drugs. But if the cause is psychological then you need to do something in order to think in a different way.
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