Sometimes they’ll say to me, “Oh, you’re over 60, you don’t come within our parameters”, then I say, “Oh, please, please, I’m suffering, please, please”. As they know me, I say, “Oh, please give it to me - nothing wrong just giving a tablet. Include me as the odd one out,” [laughs]. Like that, that personal contact helps.
Have you actually managed to persuade people?
Oh yeah, I go along on the charm offensive [laughs].
And they’ve said yes?
Oh, they’ve said yes. Even I’ve tried it on the telephone, when I ring up for trials, they’ll ask me, We want to ask you a few questions.” Then suddenly they said to me, “No, no, no, we are looking for people who are on insulin”. I said, “Oh, doctor, I’m really suffering. You’ll be a great help”. “Since 1988 I’m going through this. Well, please have a little compassion. Well, can I come and see you, at least, you know, at least get a bit of advice?” As soon as they see you, and I put on this sort of sad face [laughs], I said, “Oh, I’ve got to look after my mum” and all these things, and then they will relent, and then they’ll take me on [laughs].
Goodness knows what it does to their results [laughter].
Yeah, that’s right. I prick their conscience and, I may not come under the criteria, look at it like this.” My being an auditor and accountant, I said, “Just imagine, you give me the tablet and I get well, I’m no drain on health services. I can go back and work, I can contribute towards taxes, I could even come and help [laughs].
And sometimes have people said to you, “No, we’re still not giving you the drug because you’re not at the right age, or you’re not on insulin” or whatever?
Yeah. Well, then sometimes they categorically say no. Then I say to them, “In that case could you please put me on the reserve, because if you didn’t get enough participants then you can get in touch with me.” I never give up [laughs], I never give up. I remember in my younger days I used to work for a German multinational, one day when I was walking along the office the sales director called and said to me, “Are you free on such and such a day?” I said, “Yes, why?” “Because five of my salesman are going on this super sales course, and one of them can’t go because of such and such a reason. The course cost about a thousand quid. I don’t want to waste it, we won’t get the money. Although you’re an auditor, maybe you may learn a few things, and go on this course. It’s a one day course, it’s nice in the National Exhibition Centre in Birmingham, have a lovely meal, and have fun and come back.” So when I went to one of those courses, the lecturer or the tutor said to me, “When you go to sell something to somebody and if they said, ‘No, I don’t want it’, don’t take no for an answer. At that time, at that point in the situation they said no, try a different point, then they will say yes. So when even when they categorically say no, I then say, “Oh, please put me on your waiting list.” Then after a week I ring them up. I say, “Do you remember I spoke to you about it?” Then, then they might say, “Oh, yeah. We’ve got enough participants.” Sometimes I have a bit of luck, though, because there’s more than one person is involved in the research. Then when I ring them up I ask who is speaking, then if it was a different person, then I knew what was the critical question in– what do you call - rejecting me. Then I would say, “Oh, no I’m 59”, instead of 60.
Have you ever been found out?
In some cases where they send an application form and they’ll ask age, so instead of putting, 61 or 62, I would put my date of birth and if they are lazy to work it out, well, that is their problem. So later on they’ll find out, “I didn’t lie, I put my date of birth. Oh, I didn’t know.” I’ll play the innocent part [laughs].
FOOTNOTE: It is important to remember that there may not be a trial which is suitable for you. Some exclusion criteria may be there to protect your own safety; others may help to ensure that the trial results will be easier to interpret. If you want to know why you are not eligible for a trial to which you would like to contribute, ask the researchers to explain why you should not participate.