Mother: Yeah, this is it. Because I found out - I'll be honest, I hadn't gone out at all. The last time I went out was November, December 2000, dancing. I hadn't been out. And the only night I thought, “No, I'm going out” - I'm only going to bingo - I decide to go out, my mum's agreed to babysit - because my mum, you know, went through her own worries, was worried in case anything happened. She agreed to babysit, we were going to bingo - five o'clock that night I got the phone call: “She's going in 17th October.”
Father: Yeah.
Mother: I'm like, “Of all the nights to pick to phone me.” But then again, I wanted to know as soon as possible, so I could plan with my other two girls.
Father: Did we go?
Mother: Yeah, we went.
Father: We did, didn't we?
Mother: Yeah. It's a good, good thing, bingo.
Father: Anything - yeah, anyone's having a baby or you've got worries, go to bingo.
Mother: Because all you concentrate on...
Father: Is the numbers.
Mother: Is that number.
Father: All your worries just go out of your head, everything just goes. I mean, bingo - I mean, I would never have gone to bingo.
Mother: Yeah.
Father: But if you go, it's just all you hear...
Mother: That's it - you're sitting there.
Father: Is the man calling the numbers out.
Mother: Calling the numbers.
Father: Everything in your brain just switches off.
Mother: Switches off.
Father: The whole lot. You just switch off.
Mother: Number 22 - “come on, 22”.
Father: And you hear your numbers.
Mother: And that is, I know there's...
Father: And it's such a great release.
Mother: Yeah, it is. It's good to forget.
Father: Hark at me - a geezer, talking about going to bingo.
Mother: Yeah, but it is...
Father: It is...
Mother: I still think you need to get out, and relax and,just for that couple of hours.
Father: Yeah, you've still got to take care of yourself. You've still got to take care of yourself, otherwise you'll just collapse.
Mother: Yeah.
Father: You've got to take care of yourself. You can't forget that you are still, at the end of the day, you're a parent, a human being.
Mother: A parent. A person.
Father: You're a person, yeah. You've actually got needs. So you can't forget yourself, because otherwise it just - you can't throw it all onto your child, even though you want to. You've still got to give time for yourself.
Mother: And the other children.
Father: And the other kids yeah.
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