One thing I think is important in the early stages of Alzheimer's is that I think if you are very close to the person, if you're the wife, the husband or even the mother or the father or the children, you may not notice things as quick as the outsider. I, in fact the first person who I think really saw that something rather strange and perturbing was going on was my present wife who was a great friend of Iris. We, she and her husband and Iris and I had been sort of a foursome we'd done a lot of things together and been very close.
And after the death of her husband we saw [present wife] very often and she was extremely kind and helpful. And I think she was the first person to see something was a little unusual in Iris's behaviour. I think, I think if you're the wife or the husband on these occasions you tend to take things rather for granted. Even unusual behaviour doesn't necessarily bother you, you just say oh well that's the sort of thing he does or she does sometimes.
I think quite rightly [present wife] didn't say much to me for a while but she once or twice, when we were staying with her, she did mention the fact that she wondered if we, I'd better take Iris to a doctor. I was rather surprised by this.
I mean I, and as our doctor was a busy man and was more concerned naturally with health than with the mental state of the patient, I didn't do anything until we went in 1995 to Israel to take part in one of those sort of discussions, a general kind of cultural programme. And Iris was always very good on those occasions, she loved talking to people, she loved answering questions, it was her favourite form of participation. She wasn't so keen on giving a lecture herself, she didn't have to give a lecture but she would have been excellent at discussion and question answering.
However, on this occasion she was rather, curiously tongue-tied and sometimes unable to see what the questioner was asking and to reply very coherently. I was a bit bothered about this and remembered what [present wife] had said about it not very long before.
And after the programme so to speak, which was not a success from our point of view at all and the Israeli audience got rather sort of restive, bored and a bit impatient. An Israeli author, a very nice man whom I got to know later on came up to me and said 'Is anything wrong with Iris?' And I said 'No, I don't think so, perhaps she's tired or something.' And I then said to Iris 'Do you think it went badly?' and to my surprise Iris said 'No, I thought it went rather well, rather better than usual in some ways.' So I didn't say any more to her.
But when we got back I did think we'd better see the doctor. And our doctor didn't take it very seriously but he said, and we were talking the three of us, he suddenly said to Iris, 'Iris, who is the prime minister?' A stock question as I realise later on. Iris looked rather baffled and amused too and said 'Well I don't think I know but does it matter?' And I thought this was a very good reply.