Did she [the school counsellor] help your other daughter?

She’d helped her at school. I think that she’d made some sort of connection with her but they referred her on to CAMHS [Child and Adolescent Mental Health Service].

Hmm.

And that’s based at the hospital. And there’s a lady there that she goes to see who’s been really, really helpful, really good.

For individual counselling?

Yeah. And she went up just after Chloe died and then she went last year and she’s been this year as well.

Is that every week or every month?

She goes every week but it’s, it normally runs for about 8 weeks I think. But she’s …

And then she has a break and then goes again?

Well, she went the first time and the, the counsellor there said, you know, that she’s done really well, don’t worry if she needs to come again, she might feel that she needs to. And that’s what happened last year. But she’s been quite good because, like my daughter normally tells us, or you can tell when she’s getting to feel a bit down.

Hmm.

And like we’ll say, you know, “Do you need to speak to anybody?” And, but she always asks for the same lady because she really, you know, must find her helpful.

So that was counselling provided by the National Health Service?

Yeah. And that was, that’s very good.

Hmm.

She’s really good for her. And I mean, sometimes, because when she, the, the first couple of times she went, she, sometimes she asks us to go in as well. So normally I take her and she’ll ask me to go in and talk about something. Or, if I’ve got any problems relating to my daughter I phone, I can phone her up and she’ll talk to me over the phone.

This lady?

Yeah.

Oh, that’s good.

And that’s really good, yeah.