And what's it like at the support group, what, what do you do there?
Well er we don't talk, like when you have the one to one counselling obviously you talk about it but then once you actually go into the group, I mean it's something you don't really want to talk about and I don't know we just do all silly things, have a laugh and talk about general things. We have days outings and do a bit of fundraising and things like that.
And has that helped?
Yeah, yeah it has helped a lot.
What's it given you going to CYANA?
Er well it's something to, it's only once a week, Wednesday, but obviously I've made some nice friends over there. And like they've not all got cancer, I mean I would say there's more without cancer over there that's lost like partners and wives and husbands like their carers as they're classed as. I'd say there's more carers than what there is actual patients but it's just er well a nice feeling to go there like.
Does it give you a sort of, excuse me, a sense of community?
Yeah I think like you feel as though obviously you're not alone. I suppose that's why they named it CYANA, Cancer - You Are Not Alone
What's the next outing with the group then?
I think it's in August.
What's it going to be?
I think it's just a boat trip only like
On the River Thames?
Yeah to Waltham Abbey, I think it leaves from Bow up to Waltham Abbey.
Are you going to go on that?
Hopefully yeah. We went to see er, what was it, 'The King and I'. Was it last month or the month before, I think it might've been May we went to see that, that was a nice afternoon out. But you see where they've been so busy over there and that, they can't always get a trip once a month.
I mean I've already booked to go, it's not till November but it's what they, I don't know if you've heard of Turkey and Tinsel?
Well we're going on one of them like with a few of them from over there, Monday to Friday. I mean I do try to go on all what they get up because as I say I don't feel out of place with any of them but well I mean I don't really with my family but I dunno, I still get wary.