You assumed a very important domestic role. You were not just caring for your wife you were doing all the domestic chores. So can you tell me as you were telling me before about it?
Shelia: How you had to dress me and bath me...
Husband: Yeah in the beginning when she first was diagnosed with this she couldn’t do anything. And as for my army training ironing, washing, you name it I had to do it. And bathing, washing, putting her into bed and it was a struggle. But [cough] as for this wonder drug that I call it, she has come with leaps and bounds and if it is available to everybody that was in her position then they would find themselves a miracle because it is a wonderful drug. And as it is now, well she was in a wheelchair then. Then we threw that away. Walking sticks, we threw that away. Then the next thing was to buy a little trolley and that gives her the help she wants. She can’t walk no more than 200 metres without having to stop, sit down. But before then of course as I say, wheelchair, walking sticks before this drug.
And how easy was it for you to assume all these domestic roles when she was in a lot of pain?
Husband: Well I think, I think it’s having a big family, having to share the work. We’ve always done things together or it may have been 80% her, 30 or 20% me but we always had to do it. And if it’s just pulling together. You know what I mean looking after one another. But as I say it was hard at first because you had to push the wheelchair everywhere. Get it into the car and all.
And it was it was reversed because I was working and I would say, not fortunately but it came to the latter part of us retiring rather than the earlier part where I was working. So for me it was a full time job.
To look after your wife, yes?
Husband: To look after my wife
So you gave up working at that point? You were working part time?
Husband: No I, well yes, yes I was working part time.
Shelia: You had to give it up didn’t you?
Husband: And of course I had to give it up. But when I look back it was hard work. Now it’s got easier through this wonderful drug.
And how did you feel about sort of doing women’s work around the house: ironing, cooking, hoovering?
Husband: Didn’t, didn’t bother me.
Shelia: Well I always used to do the cooking at one time but now he does it all.
Husband: I do everything. And you just get into the routine. And keeps you out of mischief.
Shelia: I mean it was hard at first for him because obviously he wasn’t used to doing all the ironing. I always did it. I always did the cooking, the ironing,
Husband: Everything
Shelia: The cleaning because he was working. I did everything. And then, then the roles reversed. He had to do it all so it was difficult for him, you know.
Husband: As you can look, see by this I haven’t done a bad job [laugh].
This is very good [laugh].
Husband: No it’s the thing that you, you’ve got to get into and look after her you know what I mean as she would look after me if, there again if things was reversed.
So it’s reciprocal isn’t it?
Husband: Yes, yeah. And that’s it. I was just going to say this is where love for one another after what 52 years it can’t be bad.
Shelia: Yeah.
Husband: So yeah we do, do things together.